I had two campus interviews over a week ago, and have had 2 articles accepted in the past few days, one as 1st author to a top tier journal. I'm pretty sure both places already have made their decisions, but the anxiety of waiting has me thinking what if I let the committees know of the recent acceptances? If their minds are made up, it won't matter, but a part of me is wondering what if they haven't? Course, a few articles is unlikely to be a deciding factor…right?? Thoughts?
Date: 10 Feb 2011 00:59
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depends on their interview timeline. if they are still interviewing other candidates, i think it would be okay to email the search chair and reiterate your interest and let them know that the articles were accepted. But if they are done interviewing all candidates, and are presumably in the decision making process, then I agree that it could come across as desperate.
I don't know about that.
I think a place *could* ostensibly hire someone else over you if their publication record is better, and so, might reconsider if this news bumps you up to being comparable or better… if you are still waiting, you probably aren't #1, but if you are #3 because of your publication record, this might boost you to #2. 1st author at a top tier journal is a big deal. In contrast, I really can't imagine a search committee saying "well, everything about this candidate is great except that they really want the job. We don't want that kind of loser here." In my view, you have little to lose by trying. It is probably too late in the game, but who knows.
I agree with the post above…I WOULD send the update. I wouldn't make a huge deal of it, but simply say, something like I know you're busy with the search process and I really enjoyed my visit. I know this information may not make or break your decision, but I wanted to let you know I had some good news in the past week as two papers were accepted to XXXX and YYYY. I'm attaching my updated CV.
What is the harm really? I truly don't think it will make a big difference, they clearly liked you already so this is just confirming their beliefs. Don't think it will necessarily vault you ahead of anyone else, but what it if did? I'd use all the bullets in my chamber.
Wow - congrats!
Like others said, assuming you weren't the last candidate and they may have already made a recommendation or offer, I would *casually* mention it. Don't make it a big deal out of it, and maybe embed it an email about something else if possible. It could be important. Worst case scenario - it doesn't change anything. I can't see it taking you from their top choice to their second or third!
You don't want the if-onlys to deal with later ("If only I would have told them….)
If you already had interviews, you are way past the point where they are counting publications on your vitae. Its all about whether you would fit in and they'd want you working with them. All you will do by sending them an update is give them the impression that you are either insecure or over-competitive.
Ah, very interesting. It's nice to hear the other perspective that there is nothing to lose, and I could be left with "what ifs" otherwise.
So…I was inspired by the last few posts and I sent a short email very similar to what anon suggested. I'll keep you updated if I hear back or not.
I sincerely thank you all for your help!
I think the decision to send it was very wise. I'm always a little confused by the notion of "appearing desperate." A person might have 14 offers and still want to contact the top choice to increase his/her chances. Just because Yale & Cornell are begging you to work for them doesn't mean you don't still prefer Penn.
"If you already had interviews, you are way past the point where they are counting publications on your vitae. Its all about whether you would fit in and they'd want you working with them. All you will do by sending them an update is give them the impression that you are either insecure or over-competitive."
… I know of a situation that implies otherwise. A candidate was contacted after campus interviews, during the decision making process, to find out where he was in the course of publications, if there was more he was working on, etc. My impression was that the SC needed a bit more to bring to the university.
Working at an R1 in a TT position, I don't think this would hurt but, if mentioned in the faculty meeting (e.g., "candidate just emailed me and two of his/her submitted manuscripts were accepted"), it would be met with some giggling. Like someone said above, by the time that you are brought in for an interview, this additional information would not affect the ranking in a positive manner (although probably not in a negative manner either).
I can agree with this to a certain extent, but it really depends on where its accepted. This person said a top tier journal. I don't know precisely what that means for this person or their area, but you can't honestly tell me that if the search chair said in the faculty meeting "yeah, they just emailed me and that research he/she presented during the job talk was just accepted at Science" that this wouldn't raise a few eyebrows in a positive way.
Even if its just tops in their sub area of psychology (i.e., Abnormal for clinical or JPSP for social) that does reinforce that one's research is progressing well.
In my case it's not that top tier (Science), but it was accepted in the top publication in my sub-area so it's a commendable feat.
Funny that what some are interpreting as "insecure or over-competitive" can also be interpreted as showing interest and being very keen about the position. Depends on where your level of cynicism is.
overthinking it - I had this same thing happen. I was advised by mentors that I SHOULD email with the update. I really don't see how it can hurt.
Here's my update: one school responded to my email. The chair was very complimentary, congratulated me on my papers being accepted, and noted the impressiveness of the acceptance in the top-tier journal in my sub-area. It likely didn't add anything to their decision since he noted the evaluations were completed, but he did update me on where they were with the decision, and that things have been delayed due to conversations with the Dean. So if anything, I'm happy to have an update on the process that I wouldn't have otherwise had!
p.s. He did not respond with "you crazy person, why are you emailing me with this now, it's been decided!" I say it doesn't hurt.