I'm in the fortunate position of having obtained an assistant professorship this year. Due to high teaching load (3/3) I'm concerned about how much time I'll have to work on papers, particularly in the first year. I have a paper ready to submit right now and a few others that should be ready by the end of the summer. Would it be advisable to hold off on submitting these until I start the new position? The paper I have ready now is in excellent shape and very likely to be accepted. Normally would want to send out papers asap given snail pace of peer-review process. If I want papers prepared at my current institution (med school) to count toward tenure requirements, at what point can I put my new institution on the paper? My official start date is mid-August. Thank you in advance for any advice.
Date: 10 Jun 2011 15:04
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Congratulations on your new job!
It's my understanding that your affiliation would be joint on this paper- that you should always include the affiliation of where you did the work (presumably your old position) and your new position. And then for the correspondence you would write "newprof is now at Major University, Address, etc". Some places I have seen only count tenure papers as work you completed at the University, others as anything with a publication date after your start date, which of course these papers would have regardless of when you submit. I would ask around about what specifically counts as a paper towards tenure before you make your decision.
Submit your papers asap. Unless you're at a cut-throat place, you'll get credit (just include both affiliations). It's better to keep things moving because review cycles tend to take many months and can be quite unpredictable… Plus, even the best papers sometimes get unfair reviews and then you're starting over from scratch… but after many months of delay. Good luck.
I agree with, "I would ask around about what specifically counts as a paper towards tenure before you make your decision."
I also agree with anony about asking around about tenure policies. Even then, many senior faculty are clueless, so anything you can get in writing is recommended!
You will need to put the affiliation of the institution where the work was completed (in addition to your present affiliation) but I've heard of many places counting any pubs that come out after your start date. Given that your start date is mid-august, I'd assume you are well within submitting range! Congrats on the new job and the pubs!
Interesting information! I didn't realize the dual affiliation thing could be done on papers….I've always just switched it to the new position affiliation.
In terms of tenure…..they always seem so unclear. I've also heard that really, every single publication will be reviewed for tenure. Meaning, that they're looking at your overall pace of publications from the very beginning and looking at the big picture.
Sorry, another silly question:
If you are at place A, but know it won't get accepted until after you arrive at place B…..would you put place B on there already? Or just change it once it is accepted?
And I'm assuming that would mean both the affiliation line as well as the correspondence address, correct?
Also, by "work completed" do you mean the writing or the actual data collection?
I've had a dual affiliation on papers for which parts of the work were done in two places. Example 1: The experiments were conducted while I was in grad school, but the paper was written when I was a postdoc. Example 2: Everything was initially done and a paper was submitted while I was in grad school, but the paper was rejected. I then rewrote much of the paper when I was a postdoc and it was eventually accepted.
Regarding Anony's most recent post: I would not put place B as an affiliation until you're actually there. At that point, then you could consider adding it as a second affiliation and making it your correspondence address. I think of "work completed" as being any work that becomes part of the paper, whether it be experiment design, programming, data collection, analysis, paper (re-)writing, etc.
Thank you to all who responded to my question! This is very helpful information. Wishing you a relaxing yet productive summer!