I am currently an assistant professor who might be sending out some job apps this coming year. I have been submitting some grants and fellowships this past year but so far have not gotten any funded. I have, however, secured a research contract and another contract for my current department. I would obviously list these funded things on my CV, but what about the un-funded ones? Some people lsit everything to show that they are at least trying for grants. Others suggest never listing unfunded grants, as that reminds people of failures. Still others suggest only listing them if the rejected proposal was scored (and got a good score, even if rejected). What do people think about listing unfunded proposals?
Date: 27 Jun 2011 16:01
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I recommend not listing unfunded grants on your CV. As you noted, it could remind search committees of failures, and you probably wouldn't want to risk doing that. Moreover, it might undermine the positive vibes from your funded research contracts.
I completely disagree with vd. Submission of grants means you have put in a lot of effort and become familiar with the process, managed to recruit co-investigators, thought about budget, conducted a lit review (which incidentally could be converted into a paper), etc. In short, it is WORK. Everybody knows only a fraction of grants get funded. A grant not getting funded is in no way a sign of failure, putting in many is a sign of persistence and the fact that you have managed to get research contracts in the past bodes well for the future. At medical schools, CVs always list grants "funded" and "pending". Also, another fact is that even if you don't get a grant funded this time round, it doesn't mean you won't in the future. There are cycles in grant funding.
I would agree with vd on this one. Rejected grants apps (not pending, of course) would seem strange listed on a cv. If you could perhaps incorporate that information in a type of cover letter, research statement about future research programs.. or even in a more casual interview conversation, you would more likely convey the "work ethic" trait without highlighting your shortcomings.
ditto heardonthegrapevine. I discuss grants I've written, including those I've written collaboratively, in my personal statement. Kind of like, I did this research and that research… and meanwhile, I've been getting lots of experience writing grants. I end that paragraph discussing pending and currently funded grants. I like the space to be able to interpret it for them myself as opposed to letting the SC interpret it as a failure.
Perhaps you could list some of the grants applied to on the cover letter (without notes on status) with a line about how this is a priority for you… This shows the committee you're trying. That said, seems like you might be thinking too much about all this because there is no right answer. For some this will help and others will hold it against you. I suspect that the more well funded the faculty at the university the more likely they'll look down on you for listing grants you didn't get, whereas others would focus more on the failed attempts as good indicators of someone who tries. So, you might just do whatever you think is best and maybe it slightly increases odds of finding like minded people…
I 100% agree with new prof. i am also a "new prof" at a R1 institution (3rd year). While it is obviously A LOT better to receive funding, people, at least in my department, know it is extremely difficult these days to actually receive funding. However, they do want to see that you are always attempting to secure some funding. In fact, in my department, unfunded grants still count toward merit raises, etc. I am guessing this is because most people know that the strongest predictor of receiving funding is the number of time you fill out the application!
good luck with the job search!