For those of us who are search novices, what is the typical delay between the application deadline and when the search committee contacts their short-list of potential candidates (either for a "still interested" call, a phone interview, or to set up a campus interview)? I've heard that SCs typically inform their targeted list within 2 weeks after the deadline, meaning that if you do not hear anything within that period you are probably not on their first short-list batch…though you may still be on the long-list. Of course there is likely some variation around the 2 week time frame, but I was wondering if this is an accurate generalization.
Date: 06 Oct 2011 17:35
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You may hear in a few days and you may never hear. Most schools will not tell you that you are not on their short list (some won't tell you that you ARE on their short list) and most schools will not even tell you that you didn't get the job. Unfortunately, your best bet to survive being on the job market is stop worrying about dates and how long its been since you applied (or phone interviewed or interviewed or contacted the search chair or breathed), limit how often you check this website, keep working on all of your manuscripts and research projects, and stock up on hard alcohol in case you haven't heard anything come March.
My lags ranged from 4 days to 2 months. So, I would hesitate to assume anything based on dates.
It's been interesting to note, as somebody who applies both within the US and internationally, that the international schools (as a general rule) are a LOT better at communicating the status of your application. I'm not really criticizing, but the difference is (often) very stark.
As Socialite mentioned, not hearing from a school at all is very common, and very frustrating/depressing.
As a general rule of thumb, if you don't hear within two weeks, you should assume you will not get the job. During week three, I typically will start contacting heads of search committees and forwarding updated versions of my CV, even if they are identical to the one I submitted in the original application. I'll do this two times a week for about 3 more weeks and then I start getting serious by sending calendar dates of times that would be good for me to schedule a visit.
Come on schremph, I know you are trying to be humorous, but some people on here really are novices to the job search game. At least when you are being sarcastic, make it more obvious, because some people really have not had any guidance and might take your fake advice to heart.
point taken….if you are seriously considering my previous suggestion, then please have a long talk with your mentor or someone else in your field that can offer professional guidance.
I agree with socialite, counting days/weeks will drive you crazy. Last year (my third year on the market), I saw on this wiki that one of my top schools started interviewing in October, and so I cried and felt sorry for myself for a couple weeks before I moved on. Then, in late December I was invited to interview at that school, and ultimately got an offer and accepted the position. I actually asked the search chair about this after the fact, and she said that they just interviewed people serially (based on the complicated schedules of the committee), rather than in parallel. So the three interviews they did were very spread out (i.e., I had assumed my invitation was because they had dipped back into the pool because of an unsuccessful first round, but this was not the case). So, while I don't think this is typical, it is a good example of the huge range of things that can happen. Plus, it supports socialite's point that you just have no idea…. it is annoying, but true.
It really varies dramatically. Some committees with Oct. 1st deadlines have basically been reviewing as they come in, and then send out invitations on October 1st. My department had an Oct. 1 deadline and hasn't even met yet to discuss who the top candidates are and probably won't decide until the end of the month. Especially for places that have more then one search going on at once, it can be days or months before you hear. Varies widely.