I had a phone interview with Fairfield University back in October, but I have not heard anything more since then. Anyone heard from them regarding the search?
Date: 26 Nov 2011 16:10
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First let me say it was ever so nice of you to post the job details on the wiki way back when they were running the search, Oh wait you didn't, in that case I won't give you any information on the job since you felt it was best to keep it quasi secret ;)
Best of luck.
There are other reasons why someone would want to avoid posting about a particular job at any given time, not the least of which involves the quasi-anonymity of "anonymous" posting (see this topic). I think attributing devious intentions is unnecessarily judgmental and mean-spirited; perhaps I will be ever so lucky to have you as a colleague at my next job. ;-)
Wow, you would think sarcasm would play better on an academic site (or I missed the sarcasm in the response to my sarcastic post. Hmmm) Reading between the lines the post said: With a job not even posted to the forum, it's a tad unlikely there will be much if any news, but good luck. Next time I'll put less of a spin on it (or get the meta sarcasm.)
Though I will say, if one is concerned about posting even the existence of a job as that topic says, registering an account will solve the regional / institutional non anonymity of posting updates anonymously. (having said that, if an institution posts a job ad somewhere, it's a fair assumption that they would like people to know about the existence of a job.) It's hard to believe hiring committees really care, but if that was the fear, I apologize for besmirching your anonymous good name dear OP.
I absolutely think that people purposely do not post jobs they are interested in. Why would someone post a job in a forum that will increase the number of applications for said position? Thus, there is incentive for us not to post jobs on this wiki. Of course, for any R1 job this is likely a non-issue because these are so widely publicized that they would be difficult to miss. This practice can be observed first hand on the wiki when when suddenly a job will be posted accompanied by an "update" that interview invites have been made. I am sure whoever posted that job knew about it before they received their campus invite notification.
Back to the purpose of this thread…If you had a phone interview in October and have not heard anything, it is safe to say that you did not make the short list but your application is probably being held in reserve in case one of their top choices turns the job down. Many jobs actually end up going to "2nd stage" candidates for a whole host of reasons, so keep your chin up.
Ayn_Rand, you are pronbaly right but I doubt this makes any difference in the number of applications. After all, all the resources for job ads are known to everyone so it's really unlikely to miss a job you are interested in.
If it is in fact true that people purposely do not post jobs on the Wiki, then I am really surprised by this. I mean does anyone really ONLY check the Wiki for job ads? I assume the answer is no and that we are all using the same resources to locate the posted job ads and come to the Wiki not for finding new posts but to find out updates on positions we may have applied to. If you found the job ad, so did other people who are interested in that type of job. I highly doubt that whether a job is posted on the Wiki or not influences the number of applications received. It would be so much more conductive to our interests to post the jobs and post regular updates when you have them to help everyone out. Your update post will help somebody else, just as somebody else's post could help you. Not being willing to share information is not really helpful to anyone.
I am positive that some of the more obscure jobs (i.e. non-R1 jobs) could easily evade an applicant's job search criteria. Not every school posts their openings in every publication/forum. It is naive to believe that people cannot find out about a job through the wiki, especially since many of those of work "across areas" would likely miss some postings in their "secondary" area. If positing a position in the wiki even leads to one additional application, that decreases your chances of landing an interview. I realize that it sounds cynical and somewhat evil to say this, but it is in each person's best interest not to post anything on the wiki until the application deadlines have past.
I find it REALLY super-duper annoying when people post ads after the deadline has expired. What good is it to anyone? It's almost a slap in the face, like "ha, ha… look at this job you COULD have applied for. Too bad, sucker!"
So, in a sense I do agree that it is not in anybody's best interest to post ads here. It works against you in terms of landing an interview. For some reason, though, people DO post ads here. Imagine that… I assume it is a trade off—-willingness to post an ad with the expectation that others will do the same and/or provide updates on an ad you may have posted.
We can't count on institutions to keep up informed about the status of the search, so we have to inform each other. That's the reality.
I'm going to admit that I have often not posted an ad because I didn't want anyone else to know about it… but then after a few days I figure that everyone who is seriously on the market has found it already—so then I posted it. The other thought I have is… what if someone is so stupid that they only check this Wiki for ads… gee, maybe I should help them out. Heh.