Cognitive People: If a research-focused cognitive position opened up RIGHT NOW to start in Fall 2012, would you apply for it? Either way, why? Just curious…
Date: 03 Feb 2012 20:40
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Yes. Why not? I haven't received an offer yet.
It is possible that the competition won't be as stiff since a lot of people have given up, found positions, or taken post-docs. That said, the job market is still awash with desperate applicants…
Yes I would apply
@cognitive: It is not even that people are desperate…although I know many people are…there are simply NOT ENOUGH positions to go around!
From tracking the hot shot shooting star candidates it is also obvious that the same people are getting on multiple short lists and holding out for the best position to choose from…to the point of letting offers go while waiting on others.
There are certainly more than 5 eligible candidates for cognitive out there so departments would be wise to continue posting.
I'm confused, what would be a reason for not applying? And what's the job? I want to apply. ;)
Well, we're deciding if we want to do the search now. Our question is, are there enough good candidates still out there now who would apply? My gut is that the answer is yes. But I wanted to make sure. I am not sure why people might NOT want to apply this late if they didn't get a job yet, I was just trying to gauge interest.
I think there are more than enough qualified and talented candidates still left! However, there is a definite perception amongst candidates that departments that just advertise for an opening at this late stage (or are just now extending invites for campus interviews) are disorganized or otherwise dysfunctional to some degree. This might be wrong, but I've certainly heard people express this point of view!
I can see that. In our case that is not at all the issue; this is just odd timing for a postion to potentially open up. Organization or lack thereof had nothing to do with it. I admit I do fear we will look silly starting a search this late though for the reason you said: people might assume the worst.
A department doesn't always know in advance that they will need to hire this year (young faculty sometimes move on unexpectedly, and if they have just accepted an offer in this job round then the department may have just learned that they need to hire a new person), so I don't think many candidates would see a late deadline as necessarily saying anything negative about a department. I'm a member of a department with a cognitive position open this year, and I can say with confidence that there are many qualified cognitive candidates who have not yet been hired — I think you would get a great set of applicants to choose from.
Yes, I would likely apply.
I think you would find a fair number of good applicants, and really if you don't then you've lost (by and large) very little and can re-advertise the search the following year for the new applicant pool.