I was told by a colleague that some schools are posting something in ads like, "applicants with PhD's after 2010" are being sought. Or something like that, as if those who have been in the market longer than that (i.e., individuals who were left in the cold by the horrifying 2009 hiring freezes that shut down so many searches) are somehow not as valuable or not welcome to apply? I am trying to figure out if this is even legal and if people have encountered it. Does anyone have any idea why this would be added to an ad or why it would matter? I find it absolutely horrifying.
Date: 26 Oct 2012 18:43
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May just be that those who are fewer years post-degree can be paid less than those with several years of post-PhD experience. Not sure if this is legal to do and I personally have not seen this before in ads. Can't think of any other justification for it though than money and that recent grads may be easier to get before they 'make it.'
Inside Higher Ed had an article on Colorado State English Dept ad that did this.
google: Colorado State criticized for job posting favoring recent Ph.D.s
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insidehighered .com/news/2012/09/11/ colorado-state-criticized-job-posting-favoring-recent-phds
I've seen numerous that say they are looking for a "recent PhD" which is typically defined as PhD in the last 3 years.
I've seen 1 or 2, but I'm not very helpful as I'm not sure which schools these were.
This may be field dependent. I am in Neuroscience and it would be difficult, if not impossible, to find a job with any research expectations if you don't have post-doc experience. However, I do feel like there is a "shelf life" for PhDs and I worry that those of us who have been postdocs for several years due to the lack of jobs will be left out in the cold.
I've seen this in a few ads, and from what I am hearing from fellow candidates it makes the universities look bad.
My guess is that it is a function of what salary they can actually afford to pay for their hire. Searches are constrained by salary allowed by Deans. So an "older" PhD can apply (ie as in an Associate Professor position) but shouldn't expect the same salary compensation.