Since the market has become much more competitive over the past few years, often the people being hired are more impressive than was previously the norm (or so I have been led to believe). Therefore, when it comes time to evaluate this crop of assistant profs. for tenure, they will likely constitute a pool of individuals with ludicrously good credentials. Are there any indications that this will lead to the expectations for tenure becoming greater in the near-future, at least at research-oriented universities?
Date: 31 Dec 2012 02:52
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It seems to me that most new hires are coming in with vitae that would have been considered tenurable in earlier times. My sense is that the tenure decisions or standards are not tougher. There are just not many close calls anymore, in my view. The thing is that those people got the credentials that got them hired. And their behavior doesn't change once they have a position. So, the tenure bar is no "higher" per se, but, at least in my experience, the candidates going up for tenure look really, really good. (I would note that it is not the case at my institution or at others I have written tenure letters for that external funding is required to get tenure. Rather, efforts toward such funding are essential, success is not, providing of course the person is able to get their work done without substantial external funds…)
It seems like it may be a bit easier? Several of the R1/top tier schools I've interviewed with have changed the requirement of obtaining external funding in order to obtain tenure to putting efforts towards trying given the state of the grant market and the significant decrease in funding percentages… At least for some clinical departments. Although, I don't know if that necessarily makes it easier, maybe when it was much easier to get funded, it would be less work than continuously trying unsuccessfully.
Although as been there notes, you still have to be able to get work done somehow if you aren't able to get outside funding, so that could make things trickier/harder….