I'm applying for assistant professor positions this year. By the time I would begin the position, I would have completed 2 years of a postdoc. My absolute dream position was posted today… perfect fit research interests and the opportunity to be colleagues with people whom I respect in my field. So, why am I hesitant? The position is asking for someone with an associate rank or full rank. Obviously, I am not eligible for either. Is it worth it to submit my application anyway? The position doesn't ask for reference letters (unless short-listed), so I wouldn't really be wasting my references' time (but I could be wasting the search committees' time). I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were about applying for a position that doesn't fit your rank.
Date: 05 Sep 2013 22:13
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probability is low, but what does a stamp cost? 45cents? I'd pay 45 cents to watch chickens screw.
That was my thoughts too! If I needed references to submit their letters, I would probably by-pass the position.
P.S. Electronic submission of the application, too.
I've heard that there are issues hiring outside the rank you advertise for, because if they advertised for assistant professors they'd get a completely different pool of applicants to choose from. That might be more of an issue with hiring an assoc. or full prof when you've advertised for an assistant prof because of tenure and budget concerns, but it could be an issue in a situation like this too. Maybe someone more senior can chime in and tell me if I'm totally off base on that.
Tangentially related: The searches I've seen for more senior people have all tended to involve either a) a plan to hire a specific person (or having 1-2 possibilities) and just going through the motions of a full search or b) actively recruiting people and encouraging them to apply. My impression so far is that these searches tend to operate quite differently from the searches for Asst. Profs. but that they legally have to advertise them anyway.
I had the same thought re: them having somebody specific in mind. But they are doing a few hires at the assoc and full levels (x2) and one for an open rank (x1; but it's outside of my research).
why not…can't hurt
I'm a postdoc at an R1 in cognitive and the department has had 3 searches in the last 2 years (2 for asst profs, 1 for assoc). One of our asst prof postings when to an assoc-level hire, but the assoc prof search didn't even consider "asst-level" applicants (like a postdoc, early prof, or grad student)